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 It was decided to revive and re-organise the Search and Rescue Section so It was decided to revive and re-organise the Search and Rescue Section so
 as to provide for the increasing number of inexperienced walkers, to make use of the work and knowledge of the G. & R.C. to provide a group of bushwalkers available at short notice if ne..ded in a national emergency. as to provide for the increasing number of inexperienced walkers, to make use of the work and knowledge of the G. & R.C. to provide a group of bushwalkers available at short notice if ne..ded in a national emergency.
-AT OUR MN MEETING 
-One new member, Miss Grace Moroney, was welcomed into the Club. Roly Cotter's resignation from the office of Vice-President was accepted with regret, 
-Mario Kinsella was elected as a delegatt to the Youth Parliament in place of Joyce Kennedy, who is unable to attend the next meeting. 
-The Services Committee is busy sending parcels to the lads for Christmas, It is still in need of magazines. 
-The attitude of the Club to Youth Hostels was then discussed (sou Federation notes). In opening the discussion iLlex Colley put the question m7hy do youths 
-need hostels?" Ho said that the idea of Youth Hostels came from Euro-13e. In 
-Europe they wore a necessity because most of the land was privately owned and not available for camping, because firewood was scarce and fires often forbidden, 
-and because the climate was cold and wet. Here there was plenty of land avail- 
-able for camping, fires could be lit in most places and the climate was mild and sunny. Bushwalkers disliked being shut off from the trees and sun by walls and a roof, and sharing cramped quarters with a number of others whom they may 
-never have met before. But, if youths desired hostels, Buslr-alkers should co-operate with the Hostel movement in the same way as they did with the 
-- so long as the cause of conservation was furthered. He therefore moved "That "That this Club suT)orts Youth Hostels, provided that hostels are not placed in areas suitable for primitive reserves." 
  
-In seconding the motion Myles Dunphy said that the M.T.C. had considered Youth Hostels from two aspects, that of the necessity f'Ir Youth Hostels and that of the situation of hostels. It was in favour of establishing -nuth Hostels, but only in suitable areas. He -eointd out that the only primitive part of National Park is around little 1.1arley; where it is proposed to build the -Zirct hostel. A hostel needs fuel aeld0.Da,,91 therefore vehicular traffic is necessary, and a track or road oust he elade. The timber around would soon go. 20 people for one week would use up all the timber in the vicinity. A 'hostel was for peo-ele who did not want to become Dushwalkers. 
  
-Dorothy Lawry pointed out that many of the hostel users would probably become bushwalkers, and Mr.Grose, a visitor from Melb-ourne, said that there were 300 people in the Victorian hostels movement and that there had been a definite increase in new members of walking clubs as the result of the hostel movement.+===== AT OUR OWN MEETING =====
  
-Mouldy Harrison drew a distinction between primitive areas and parks with roads and other improvementsNational Park was wanted as a primitive area park. For this reason Erawhich was well placed for a short weekend trip, was a better site than Little Marley. He thought that the Youth Hostels Movement and the Dushwalking movement would remain separateThis was so in Europe, where the campers were distinct from the hostel users.+One new memberMiss Grace Moroney, was welcomed into the ClubRoly Cotter's resignation from the office of Vice-President was accepted with regret.
  
-Laurie Rayner said that walkers in Europe, who have to carry fuel, only carry a tent if they have to. Youth Hostels were for people commencing tbeir walking career. We -should offer them a helping hand. We should send a bush walker to the hostel every weekend to organise walks and teach bushcraft. We should not be snobs and keel'them out of our garden because they don't know anything about bushwalking,+Marie Kinsella was elected as a delegate to the Youth Parliament in place of Joyce Kennedy, who is unable to attend the next meeting. 
 + 
 +The Services Committee is busy sending parcels to the lads for Christmas. It is still in need of magazines. 
 + 
 +The attitude of the Club to Youth Hostels was then discussed (see Federation notes). In opening the discussion Alex Colley put the question "why do youths need hostels?" He said that the idea of Youth Hostels came from Europe. In 
 +Europe they were a necessity because most of the land was privately owned and not available for camping, because firewood was scarce and fires often forbidden, and because the climate was cold and wet. Here there was plenty of land available for camping, fires could be lit in most places and the climate was mild and sunny. Bushwalkers disliked being shut off from the trees and sun by walls and a roof, and sharing cramped quarters with a number of others whom they may never have met before. But, if youths desired hostels, Buslwalkers should co-operate with the Hostel movement in the same way as they did with the N.R.M.A. - so long as the cause of conservation was furthered. He therefore moved "That this Club supports Youth Hostels, provided that hostels are not placed in areas suitable for primitive reserves." 
 + 
 +In seconding the motion Myles Dunphy said that the M.T.C. had considered Youth Hostels from two aspects, that of the necessity for Youth Hostels and that of the situation of hostels. It was in favour of establishing Youth Hostels, but only in suitable areas. He pointed out that the only primitive part of National Park is around little Marley; where it is proposed to build the first hostel.  A hostel needs fuel and goods, therefore vehicular traffic is necessary, and a track or road must be made. The timber around would soon go. 20 people for one week would use up all the timber in the vicinity. A hostel was for people who did not want to become Bushwalkers. 
 + 
 +Dorothy Lawry pointed out that many of the hostel users would probably become bushwalkers, and Mr. Grose, a visitor from Melbourne, said that there were 300 people in the Victorian hostels movement and that there had been a definite increase in new members of walking clubs as the result of the hostel movement. 
 + 
 +Mouldy Harrison drew a distinction between primitive areas and parks with roads and other improvements.  National Park was wanted as a primitive area park. For this reason Era, which was well placed for a short weekend trip, was a better site than Little Marley. He thought that the Youth Hostels Movement and the Bushwalking movement would remain separate. This was so in Europe, where the campers were distinct from the hostel users. 
 + 
 +Laurie Rayner said that walkers in Europe, who have to carry fuel, only carry a tent if they have to. Youth Hostels were for people commencing their walking career. We should offer them a helping hand. We should send a bush walker to the hostel every weekend to organise walks and teach bushcraft. We should not be snobs and keep them out of our garden because they don't know anything about bushwalking
 + 
 +Wal Roots said that the hostels movement will give recruits to the Bushwalking movement if we adopt the right attitude towards it. If we were to get behind the movement we could decide where the next hostel would be placedand there would be no need to make any stipulations about primitive areas.
  
-Wal Roots said that the hostels movement will give recruits to the Bush walking movement if we adopt the right attitude towards it. If we were to get behind the movement we could decide where the next hostel would be placed, and there would be no need to make any stipulations about primitive areas. 
 Charles Jones said that the main point to consider was that hostels would bring people out of the city and into the bush. Hostels were not designed for bushwalkers. Charles Jones said that the main point to consider was that hostels would bring people out of the city and into the bush. Hostels were not designed for bushwalkers.
  
-Ray Kirkby said that there was already accommodation for those who wanted to do walks in places close to Sydney. Hostels should be put in worth while places so enabling people who did not want to carry packs to do interesting walks.+Ray Kirkby said that there was already accommodation for those who wanted to do walks in places close to Sydney. Hostels should be put in worthwhile places so enabling people who did not want to carry packs to do interesting walks.
  
 Marie Byles said that she thought the Hostels Movement was anxious for a lead from the Bushwalking movement, 5 of the 10 members of the Youth Hostels Committee were bushwalkers and could exert a determining influence on the placing of hostels. She therefore moved that the second portion of the motion be amended to read "provided the Federation has some say in their management and location". The amendment was carried. The motion was then put and carried. Marie Byles said that she thought the Hostels Movement was anxious for a lead from the Bushwalking movement, 5 of the 10 members of the Youth Hostels Committee were bushwalkers and could exert a determining influence on the placing of hostels. She therefore moved that the second portion of the motion be amended to read "provided the Federation has some say in their management and location". The amendment was carried. The motion was then put and carried.
  
-Alex Colley then moved that the motion of the last General Meeting, approving of tile -erection of a hostel at Marley should be rescinded. The rescinding of this motion was approved by the meeting. It was also resolved that members should be acquainted with other proposed hostel sits and the matter be discussed at the next meeting (See article on page 7).+Alex Colley then moved that the motion of the last General Meeting, approving of the erection of a hostel at Marley should be rescinded. The rescinding of this motion was approved by the meeting. It was also resolved that members should be acquainted with other proposed hostel sites and the matter be discussed at the next meeting (See article on page 7).
  
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