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- | SNAKEBITE IN THE WONNANGATTA | + | SNAKEBITE IN THE WONNANGATTA |
by Tricia, Cristofaro. | by Tricia, Cristofaro. | ||
- | (Reprint from "Walk 1982", published by the Melbourne Bushwalkers. | + | |
- | With summer' | + | (Reprint from "Walk 1982", published by the Melbourne Bushwalkers.\\ |
- | useful information regarding recommended snake bite treatment contained in this article.) | + | With summer |
- | Headers | + | |
- | nursing sister, I had the opportunity to hear Struan Sutherland (CSL) first | + | Leaders |
- | hand as he explained the principles of lymphatic compression which are the basis | + | |
- | of this treatment. Little did I know' | + | My husband persuaded me to attempt the walk into Wonnangatta Homestead (Australia Day weekend 1981), and our son Nigel was pressed into service as an "extra pack horse" |
- | My husband persuaded me to attempt the walk into Wonnangatta Homestead | + | |
- | (Australia Day weekend 1981), and our son Nigel was pressed into service as an | + | The drama commenced on day two in the valley, and resulted from a disregard of cardinal hiking rules:\\ |
- | "extra pack horse" | + | (i) Wandering through a very " |
- | account the height of walkers in calculating the number of crepe bandages | + | (ii) Refusal |
- | required to bandage limbs: | + | |
- | The drama commenced on day two in the valley, and resulted from a disregard | + | When he was bitten, strangely enough, a snake was not our first thought. As with most crisis situations, I guess that we all operate under the assumption that the worst would never happen to us .... |
- | of cardinal hiking rules: (i) Wandering through a very " | + | |
- | his hiking boots - having thongs on at the time. | + | He walked |
- | When he was bitten, strangely enough, a snake was not our first thought. | + | |
- | As with most crisis situations, I guess that we all operate under the assumption that the worst would never happen to us. . . | + | The snake had not been sighted; this, according to Struan Sutherland, is quite a common situation. We knew that both tiger and black snakes frequented the area, and judged by the distance |
- | November, 1983. THE SYDNEY BUSHWALKER Page 9 | + | |
- | He -Walked | + | Fortunately for us, there was a large number of four-wheel-drives in the area, and we were taken out by one of these, CB radio being used to alert the Heyfield hospital of our imminent arrival. We attempted to keep the victim as still as possible, (difficult in a short wheel base vehicle an the Wonnangatta Track with a six foot patient; bandaging the legs together is recommended). Efforts to allay anxiety in him were very successful; however inwardly I was having anticipatory horrors about coping with a respiratory arrest under such conditions. |
- | The snake had not been sighted; this, according to Struan Sutherland, is | + | |
- | quite a common situation. We knew that both tiger and black snakes frequented the area, and judged by the distance | + | It took five hours from bite to arrival at the hospital, and we were somewhat nonplussed to be greeted with the news that the two sisters knew nothing about snakebite but had been reading up the literature: The local doctor, however, was quite experienced, |
- | Fortunately for us, there was a large number of four-wheel-drives in the area, and we were taken out by one of these, CB radio being used to alert the Heyfield hospital of our imminent arrival. We attempted to keep the victim | + | |
- | as still as possible, (difficult in a short wheel base vehicle an the Wonnangatta Track with a six foot patient; bandaging the legs together is recommended). Efforts to allay anxiety in him were very successful; however inwardly I was having anticipatory horrors about coping with a respiratory arrest under such conditions. | + | On replacing the thong next day, we found that the rubber strap exactly covered the punctures. We are assuming that the snake must have hit this and perforated it, thereby perhaps giving a lower actual dose of venom with limited penetration of the skin ... All in all, we were very lucky! |
- | It took five hours from bite to arrival at the hospital, and we were somewhat nonplussed to be greeted with the news that the two sisters knew nothing about snakebite but had been reading up the literature: The local doctor, however, was quite experienced, | + | |
- | was released only over the site and the punctures inspected. The patient stayed in overnight with the upper bandage still in place, having regular observations of vital signs and urine tests for blood. An important point with this new treatment is that the bandages must not be released until the patientis | + | The following snakebite treatment has been reprinted from Walk 1980 and was prepared by L. E. Kitchener.\\ |
- | medical supervision, | + | 1. - WASH THE WOUND. (However, see also comments |
- | as there can be a sudden surge of venom into the system. Nigel did well without further treatment though his leg was very swollen. | + | Rationale: |
- | On replacing the thong next day, we found that the rubber strap exactly covered the punctures. We are assuming that the snake must have hit hisand | + | |
- | The following snakebite treatment has been reprinted from Walk 1980 and was prepared by L. E. Kitchener. | + | 2. APPLY PRESSURE.\\ |
- | 1. - WASH THE WOUND. (HOwever, sed.also coMments | + | Rationale: In the first instance, the venom enters into the smallest blood vessels, which are microscopic, |
- | Rationale:. _Usually, the snake doesn' | + | Method: Place a pad over the puncture |
- | 2. APPLY PRESSURE. | + | |
- | Rationalle:__In.the first instance, the venom enters into the smallest blood | + | 3. IMMOBILIZE THE PART.\\ |
- | ._. | + | Rationale: |
- | Page 10 THE SYDNEY | + | Method: Splint the limb as you would for a broken bone, including the joint above the injury in the operation. |
- | ve6sels;" | + | |
- | Method: Place a pad over the Tuncture | + | N.B. THE USE OF BOTH PRESSURE AND MOBILIZATION MUST BE USED.\\ |
- | 3. 2_1MOBILIZE 5HEPART. | + | |
- | Rationale:- One of the most important | + | |
- | N.B. THE USE OF BOTH PRESSURE AND MOBILIZATION MUST BE USED. | + | |
AUTHORITIES DO NOT CONSIDER EITHER/OR TO BE SATISFACTORY. | AUTHORITIES DO NOT CONSIDER EITHER/OR TO BE SATISFACTORY. | ||
- | 4. KEEP THE PATIENT QUIET AND AT REST. Rationale: Movement will aid the return of blood to the heart, and from | + | |
- | there into the general circulation, | + | 4. KEEP THE PATIENT QUIET AND AT REST.\\ |
- | lsosen | + | Rationale: Movement will aid the return of blood to the heart, and from there into the general circulation, |
- | 5. OBSERVE THE VICTIM FOR BREATHING DIFFICULTIES AND ASSIST WITH . BREATHING IF NECESSARY. | + | Method: Rest the patient, lying flat, with a pillow under the head, for comfort. Reassure him/her that someone has gone for help, that the snake was only a little one - whatever. |
- | 6. CONTINUE.and 5 until the patient is in the hands of that someone-with the life support systems and anti-venene, neither of which will be used unless the patient' | + | |
- | ScI_rneremakr1. 11: | + | 5. OBSERVE THE VICTIM FOR BREATHING DIFFICULTIES AND ASSIST WITH BREATHING IF NECESSARY. |
- | There.appears, from comparison of various snake-bite treatments, to be some inconsistency as to whether or not the wound should be washed. The Commonwealth Serum Laboratories have advised that the procedure depends on | + | |
- | the cirumstances. If the bite has caused a large wound, or has occurred near another wound, the site should certainly be washed. A sample of the venom could be obtained by wiping with a separate piece of fabric. | + | 6. CONTINUE |
- | In any case, priority should be given to pressure on the site, and to immobilization of the patient. The latter is particularly important in | + | |
- | the event of there being no immediate means of rescue (such as four-wheel- drives). | + | __Some remarks from the editor (of " |
- | * * * * * * * * * | + | There appears, from comparison of various snake-bite treatments, to be some inconsistency as to whether or not the wound should be washed. The Commonwealth Serum Laboratories have advised that the procedure depends on |
- | TO LET | + | the circumstances. If the bite has caused a large wound, or has occurred near another wound, the site should certainly be washed. A sample of the venom could be obtained by wiping with a separate piece of fabric. |
- | LANE COVE: Four bedroom house to let for all of January and/or one room forJanuary | + | |
- | Contact. | + | In any case, priority should be given to pressure on the site, and to immobilization of the patient. The latter is particularly important in the event of there being no immediate means of rescue (such as four-wheel- drives). |
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+ | TO LET\\ | ||
+ | LANE COVE: Four bedroom house to let for all of January and/or one room for January | ||
+ | Contact. | ||
CROSSWORD PUZZLE ANSWER (See last month' | CROSSWORD PUZZLE ANSWER (See last month' | ||
- | factors influencing the return of the is the intermittent squashing of the | + | |
- | for a broken bone, including the joint | + | MEETING NOTES FOR SEPTEMBER & OCTOBER.\\ |
- | 4-4 | + | by Barry Wallace. |
- | BUSHWALKERS | + | THE HALF-YEARLY (SEPTEMBER) G.M. |
- | 1 Lightweight Tents 0 Sleeping E34?.,gs ' Rucksacks IP Climbing 8- Caving Gears Maps * Clothing 0 Boots 0 Food. CAMPING EQUIPMENT | + | |
- | Large Tents 0 Stoves 0 Lamps-2, Fol;:::;' | + | The meeting |
- | DISTiV: | + | There were no apologies so we went straight on to welcome Margaret Wood and Owen Stanley as new members. Susan Young and Karl Conning were also called but were not present. |
- | Paddyrnade Karrirncr | + | |
- | / Proprietors: | + | The Minutes of the August meeting were read and received with no business arising. |
- | Pow tstl | + | |
- | Strael | + | Correspondence comprised a letter of thanks from the family of George Davidson, the minutes of the most recent Coolana Committee Meeting, details of the Paddy Pallin |
- | kV*4 | + | to MT. Roger Good of C.S.I.R.O. confirming details of a talk which he is to present during one of the social nights in October. |
- | EASTIN000 CANNA GOODS & CAMPNC-.1. -: | + | |
- | 3 Trt:qaAn ey Z1'.; Eas-re.taad NSW 27. ,2 2775 | + | So then it was on, on, at a heady pace to the Walks Reports. Over the weekend of August 12,13,14 Steve and Wendy Hodgman' |
- | ; -- | + | |
- | : | + | The following weekend, 19,10,21 August Alan Pike led 10 people on a good walk in the Megalong. Ian Debert had a party of 13 on his Mt. Solitary Talk, It seems they mislaid (or was that misplaced) two people and reached |
- | TIE SYDNEY BUSHWAIMER November, | + | Kedumba |
- | ...1 ..1...=.11 | + | |
- | MEETING NOTES FOR SEPTEMBER & OCTOBER. | + | Over the extended weekend 26th to 29th August George Walton led 17 people on a Kanangra to Katoomba stroll. For those without the extra day Bob Hodson |
- | by Barry Wallace. | + | |
- | -The-Meetirig | + | The weekend of 2,3,4 September saw Ian Debert and 22 stalwarts |
- | There were no apologies so we went straight on to welcome Margaret Wood and Owen Stanley as new members. Susan Young and Karl Conning' | + | |
- | The Minutes of the August meeting were read and received with no business | + | Lynne McDonald's ski touring trip over the weekend 9,10111 September had 4 starters. They returned early due to wet conditions. There was no report of the other weekend trip, Joan Cooper' |
- | arising. | + | |
- | Correspondence comprised a letter of thanks from the family of George Davidson, the minutes of the most recent Coolana Committee Meeting, details | + | |
- | of the Paddy Pallin | + | |
- | to MT. Roger Good of C.S.I.R.O. confirming details of a talk which he is to | + | |
- | present during one of the social nights in October. | + | |
- | So then it was on, on, at a heady pace to the Walks Reports. Over the | + | |
- | weekend of August 12,13,14 Steve and Wendy Hodgman' | + | |
- | 6 members and 2 prospectives. It seems they ran short of time and arrived back in the dark. Margaret Conley had 17 people out on her Dharug National | + | |
- | The following weekend, 19,10,21 August Alan Pike led 10 people on a | + | |
- | good Tmlk in the liegalong. Ian Debert had a party of 13 on his Mt. Solitary Talk, It seems they mislaid (or was that misplaced) two people and reached | + | |
- | edumba | + | |
- | day, George Mayer reported 24 people on his rather fire burnt ramble to Eleanor Bluffs, and Jim Brown had another 24 an his Royal National Park walk. | + | |
- | Over the extended weekend 26th to 29th August George Walton led 17 people | + | |
- | on a Kanangra to Katoomba stroll. For those without the extra day Bob | + | |
- | hods3on | + | |
- | Of the day walks, John Newman' | + | |
- | The weekend of 2,3,4 September saw Ian Debert and 22 stalwartr | + | |
- | wildflower day walk in Kuringai Chase and Peter Christian had 7 starters on his also in Kuringai Chase. | + | |
- | LynneMaDonald's ski touring trip over the weekend 9,10111 September had 4 starters. They returned early due to wet conditions. There was no report of the other weekend trip, Joan Cooper' | + | |
Peter Miller had 8 starters on his Benowie Track walk but of Jan Mohandas' | Peter Miller had 8 starters on his Benowie Track walk but of Jan Mohandas' | ||
- | Federation Report brought news that the Blue Mountains City Council | + | |
- | November, 1983 THE SYDNEY BUSHWALKER Page 13 | + | Federation Report brought news that the Blue Mountains City Council does not intend to completely |
- | does not intend to completely | + | |
The Coolana Committee has indicated that a memorial for George Davidson will be conducted at Coolana during the weekend of the Annual Barn Dance. | The Coolana Committee has indicated that a memorial for George Davidson will be conducted at Coolana during the weekend of the Annual Barn Dance. | ||
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The only General Busin4ss saw Spiro elected as Re-union Convenor for the 1984 Annual Re-union at Coolana. | The only General Busin4ss saw Spiro elected as Re-union Convenor for the 1984 Annual Re-union at Coolana. | ||
And then it was just a matter of announcements, | And then it was just a matter of announcements, | ||
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THE OCTOBER GENERAL MEETING. | THE OCTOBER GENERAL MEETING. | ||
- | "-The -Meeting | + | |
- | The Minutes of the previous meeting were read and received with no business arising. Correspondence was made up of letters to the new members, to O.M.W. acknowledging their recent letter and. advising that it had been passed to the Coolana Committee for consideration, | + | The meeting |
- | Brown proposing changes to meetings and procedures. | + | |
- | The Treaaurer's Report indicated that we began the month with $2927.30, | + | The Minutes of the previous meeting were read and received with no business arising. Correspondence was made up of letters to the new members, to O.M.W. acknowledging their recent letter and advising that it had been passed to the Coolana Committee for consideration, |
- | had an income of $1957.75; $1000 'of wfiich | + | |
- | spent $1330.79 and ended the month with $3554.26. | + | The Treasurer's Report indicated that we began the month with $2927.30, had an income of $1957.75; $1000 of which was by way of stock redemption, spent $1330.79 and ended the month with $3554.26. |
- | The Walks Reports began with a non-report of Bill Holland' | + | |
- | walk did go. On a somewhat firmer note Bill Capon' | + | The Walks Reports began with a non-report of Bill Holland' |
- | 12 to 15 people on the walk at various times. Ainslie Morris reported 42 | + | |
- | starters, a lovely day, and good views on her Brisbane Waters wildflower day walk, and Jack Gentle led a party of 20 on his ' | + | Over the weekend of 23,24,25 September Peter Miller led a fleet of two Canadians, each with a crew of 3, on an exploration by canoe of the Kangaroo River. Despite buffeting by contrary winds they reported an enjoyable trip. Gordon Lee's instructional weekend saw 2 to 3 starters for rock-climbing and 8 or so for abseiling on the Sunday. Tony Marshall' |
- | Over the weekend of 23,24,25 September Peter Miller led a fleet of two Canadians, each with a crew of 3, on an exploration by canoe of the Kangaroo | + | |
- | River. Despite buffeting by contrary winds they reported an enjoyable trip. Gordon Lee's instructional weekend saw 2 to 3 starters for rock-climbing and | + | Over the October long weekend Spiro Hajinakitas had 2l people and some prospectives' |
- | 8 or so for abseiling on the Sunday. Tony Marshall' | + | |
- | Over the October long weekend Spiro Hajinakitas had/2l people and some prospectives' | + | |
- | Page 14 THE SYDNEY BUSHWALKKR November, | + | |
- | Gordon are Santa Claus, so go back to sleep!). George Walton' | + | |
day walk saw 14 people enjoying a pleasant day on and around Narrow Neck plateau. | day walk saw 14 people enjoying a pleasant day on and around Narrow Neck plateau. | ||
- | Jim Laing' | + | |
- | firetrail, | + | Jim Laing' |
- | the 9th October, however, Peter' | + | |
- | Pengliss led 33 people on his reversed-from-programme coastal walk. - It seems the party was rent with factionalism, | + | In Business Arising it was resolved to write to N.P.W.S. advising them of the level of trail bike activity in Kuringai Chase Park and asking that they take action against offending riders. |
- | In Business Arising it was resolved to write to N.PX.S. advising them of the level of trail bike activity in Kuringai Chase Park and asking that | + | |
- | they take action against offending riders. | + | |
The Federation Report brought news that N.P.A. will attempt to have beaches in National Parks freed of vehicles, that the F.B.W. Ball was its usual successful self and that there are reports of commercial tour vehicles being allowed access to Medlow Gap and Narrow Neck. | The Federation Report brought news that N.P.A. will attempt to have beaches in National Parks freed of vehicles, that the F.B.W. Ball was its usual successful self and that there are reports of commercial tour vehicles being allowed access to Medlow Gap and Narrow Neck. | ||
- | There was no General Business so, after walks and social announcements, | + | |
- | XXXXXXXXXX | + | There was no General Business so, after walks and social announcements, |
- | BOOK REVLA - "WILD PLACES" | + | |
+ | BOOK REVIEW | ||
by Jim Brown. | by Jim Brown. | ||
- | On the last page of The Sydney Bushwalker" | + | |
- | notice advertising publications on sale by the Oolong | + | On the last page of The Sydney Bushwalker" |
- | WILD PLACES. A beautifully produced hardbound edition of 288 pages featuring an extensively researched text by Peter Prineas, former Director of the National Parks Association of N.S.W., and 110 large | + | WILD PLACES. A beautifully produced hardbound edition of 288 pages featuring an extensively researched text by Peter Prineas, former Director of the National Parks Association of N.S.W., and 110 large format duotone photographs by Henry Gold. The book also contains more than 20 detailed maps, an index and is extensively referenced. The book covers 22 wilderness areas in N.S.W., and these include most of the best walking country. It draws extensively |
- | format duotone photographs by Henry Gold. The book also contains | + | Price $24.95, including postage, and available from the Colong Committee, 18 Argyle Street, Sydney: or Alex Colley will deliver to the Club room to save you 95 cents postage. |
- | more than 20 detailed maps, an index and is extensively referenced. The book covers 22 wilderness areas in N.S.W., and these include most of the best walking country. It draws extensiVely | + | |
- | Price $24.95, including postage, and available from the Colong Committee, | + | Those might be described as the vital statistics of "Wild Places". It doesn' |
- | to save you 95 cents postage. | + | |
- | Those might be described as the vital statistics of "Wild Places''' | + | |
- | have recently had a chance to read carefully. My first reaction was that there | + | |
- | has been a need for this book for some time. In the last couple of years in particular, the attention of people concerned with wilderness conservation has been focussed | + | |
- | November, 1983 TIE SYDNEY BTISHWALIER Page 15 | + | |
- | diminish our realisation,,that:_we,.have in.. New Sou.h. | + | |
goes a long way towards redressing; this concept. | goes a long way towards redressing; this concept. | ||
- | Eabh of 'the 22 chapters covering individual regions (these | + | |
- | rather more detailed.history of occupancy - by aboriginal tribes, early exploration and settlement by Europeans - or the reasons why the, area was haPpily | + | Each of the 22 chapters covering individual regions (these |
- | bears a name of aboriginal origin - something like " | + | |
- | - | + | The text written by Peter Prineas is full of such informative (even amusing) gems - indeed so good that I scarcely believed it when I read that one of the early bushwalker explorers in the Kanangra country is named as 'Frank Debert" |
- | The text written by Peter Prineas is full of such informative (even | + | |
- | amusing) gems - indeed so good that I scarcely believed it when I read that one of the early bushwalker explorers in the Kanangra country is named as 'Frank Debert" | + | Since the photographer is our own Henry Gold, I feel it would be presumptuous to comment on the illustrations. Indeed it would be somewhat equivalent to the music critic who wrote of Beethoven' |
- | Debert)" | + | the original photograph. The result is not quite as the human eye sees it, but who would quibble over this when the effect is so dramatic? (To continue the Beethoven analogy, who disputes the interpretations in recordings under conductor Herbert von Karajan because |
- | singularly free of the typographical errors or mis-spelled. Place names one | + | |
- | sometimes finds in such publications. In any event, a minor fault in such a thoroughly researched and edited account. | + | Two quotes from the Introductory portion of "Wild Places" |
- | Since the photographer is our own Henry Gold, I feel it Wou.ld | + | 1. " |
- | "the outrageous outburst of a young man's-effrontery" | + | 2. " |
- | and along the Colo Gorge, it is pretty obvious that a telephota | + | |
- | the original photograph. The result is not quite as the human eye sees it, but who would. quibble over this when the effect | + | To an unrepentant |
- | Two quotes from the Introductory portion of "Wild Places" | + | |
- | 1. " | + | ANOTHER ITEM OF EARLY S.B.W.HISTORY.\\ |
- | on its past, its present and its future" | + | by Dorothy Lawry. |
- | 2. 4People | + | |
- | access to so much good bush walking country - space to move about in, to | + | As you all know, The Sydney Bush Walkers was formedl |
- | become lost in, wild places that help to make our way of life distinctive and. enjoyable ti | + | |
- | To an unrepentant | + | In the very early days some of the men members, when planning trips for long weekends or their annual fortnight' |
- | where a superannuated bush walker could-- possibly ,,..wish Places" | + | " |
- | XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX | + | |
- | Page 16 THE SYDNEY BUSHWALKER November,, | + | |
- | ANOTHER ITEM OF EARLY S.B.W.HISTORY. | + | |
- | . ... by Dorothy Lawry. | + | |
- | As you all know, The Sydney Bush Walkers was forrel | + | |
- | In the very early days some of the men members, when planning trips for long weekends or their annual fortnight' | + | |
- | " | + | |
- | less food, and that will keep the weight of our rucksacks down!" | + | |
For the first year or two this was what they did but by 1930 they had found that the bunnies were so quick at diving into their burrows as soon as a human appeared that few were shot even though as we rounded a bend the hillside would be covered with rabbits. | For the first year or two this was what they did but by 1930 they had found that the bunnies were so quick at diving into their burrows as soon as a human appeared that few were shot even though as we rounded a bend the hillside would be covered with rabbits. | ||
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This disillusioned those men for they had to carry the guns and ammunition from start to end of the trip without losing any of their weight: A full supply of food was a much better idea. | This disillusioned those men for they had to carry the guns and ammunition from start to end of the trip without losing any of their weight: A full supply of food was a much better idea. | ||
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About the last time any of the men carried their guns was when they arranged a special shooting trip at the flat at the foot of Starlight' | About the last time any of the men carried their guns was when they arranged a special shooting trip at the flat at the foot of Starlight' | ||
- | When they got to the ,Nattai ALAS: What a flop! During the previous week the rabbit trappers had worked that flat::: | + | |
- | There was hardly a bunny seen that whole weekend and the only one the whole party managed to kill was brought down by the catapult: | + | When they got to the Nattai ALAS: What a flop! During the previous week the rabbit trappers had worked that flat!! |
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+ | There was hardly a bunny seen that whole weekend and the only one the whole party managed to kill was brought down by the catapult! | ||
SOCIAL NOTES FOR DECEMBER. by Jo Van Sommers. | SOCIAL NOTES FOR DECEMBER. by Jo Van Sommers. | ||
- | CHRISTMAS PARTY - Wednesday, 21st December, 1983. | + | |
- | 1 plate of food gets you in the door - the Club provides beer, wine . | + | CHRISTMAS PARTY - Wednesday, 21st December, 1983.\\ |
- | and juice. Bring your own glass. Come and indulge yourself with bushwalkers' | + | 1 plate of food gets you in the door - the Club provides beer, wine and juice. Bring your own glass. Come and indulge yourself with bushwalkers' |
Please note - the Clubroom will be closed on 28th December and 4th January next. | Please note - the Clubroom will be closed on 28th December and 4th January next. | ||
- | XXXXXXX4X** | + | |
- | TASMANIA WALK - FEBRUARY, 1984., | + | TASMANIA WALK - FEBRUARY, 1984.\\ |
- | 4th to 12th .February. | + | 4th to 12th February. |
- | Cradle Mountain to Lake St. Clair -7 days walking. | + | |
+ | Cradle Mountain to Lake St. Clair - 7 days walking. | ||
If interested please contact George before 15th December. Transport, food, etc. to be arranged during January. | If interested please contact George before 15th December. Transport, food, etc. to be arranged during January. | ||
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