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-=====Letter To The Cluc.=====
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 From P. J. Simpson. 32 Shirley Road, Roseville.
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-=====Social Notes For Nobember.=====
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+=====Wolfe Wilderness Wanderings (Epic Ski Touring).=====
-WM WILDER TMMNG
+By Ian Wolfe
-THIS IS HOW IT ALL WENT  BY IAN WOLFE
+This is how it all went....
+===Three days ski touring Thredbo - Perisher: (8-11th July).===
+Blizzard conditions on the first day resulted in an interesting contour around to Twin valleys where we set up camp by lunchtime. Toured the valley taking advantage of the lee of the mountain. Six inches of snow fell overnight giving good cover for our ski to the ruins of Stillwells Restaurant before heading up up to Porcupine and Prussian Plains to camp. A nice ski on the last day in blazing sunshine and returned via the Ski Tube.
+===4 Day Hut Crawl Munyang - Jagungal: (29/7 - 2/8).===
+Not enough snow down low for original route,(Euctumbene Dam) so we went in from Munyang. On Day 1 we visited Shlink Hilton, Orange Hut and camped at Valentines Hut. It rained heavily all night but snowed at dawn (usually the reverse). Skied and walked down to the top of Valentines Falls - they were absolutely raging in the high water. Six inches of snow by lunch provided a beautiful vista for the ski around to Mawsons Hut. A pleasant night looking at the full moon and reading poems by Henry Lawson and Banjo Patterson. An icy crossing of the Valentine started Day 3 before climbing up the Cup and Saucer as well as Mailbox Hill. Continued on via The Brassy's to camp at Tin Hut. More snow overnight reduced visibility on Day 4 to 40 metres or less and made challenging navigation over Gungarten Pass. Weather cleared allowing some XCDing before visiting Whites River Hut and Disappointment Spur enroute to the cars.
+In all 7 huts in 4 days - quite an acceptable alterative to original plan. Try again next year!
+===Victorian Odyssey - Southern Alps (27/8 - 6/9).===
+__Trip 1__: Climbed up Mt 13ogong via Eskdale.Spur to set up camp below Quartz Knob. Good skiing and touring around West Summit. After dinner that night we skied by the light of the full moon to the summit to enjoy the sights of stars and the lights of towns spread out around us. Next day we traversed the plateau-like top of Mt. Bogong to camp at Cleve Cole hut. This is a huge well built stone hut which provided a refuge through the next two days of heavy rain (much sleeping in, book reading and 500 playing). Finally eight inches of snow fell and allowed us to tour the southern end of the mountain before heading out. This included a worthwhile trip to Howman Falls.
+__Trip 2__: After a night in the pub at Harrietville we caught the bus to Diamantina Hut to ski/walk along the Razorback Ridge in thin snow conditions to MUMC hut. Next day up the steep ridge to enjoy magnificent views from the top of Mt. Feathertop. Unfortunately the thin snow conditions limited XCDing quite severely leading us to shift camp to Federation hut that night and walk out via the Bugalow spur next day.
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-Blizzard conditions on the first day resulted irt an interesting contour:around to Twin valleys where we set up camp by lunchtime. Toured the valley taking advantage of the lee of the mountain. Six inches of snow fell overnight giving good cover for our ski to the ruins of Stillwells Restaurant before beading up up to Porcupine and Prussian Plains to camp. A nice ski on the last day in blazing sunshine and returned via the Ski Tube.
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-Not enough snow down low for original rOute,(Euctimberte Dam) so we ,went in from Munyang. On Day 1. we visited Shlink Hilton, Orange Hut and camped at Valentines Hut, It rained, heavily al/night but snowed at dawn (usually the reverse). Skied and walked down to the top of Valentines Falls -they were absolutely: raging in the high water. Sixinches of snow by ltmch provided a beautiful vista for the ski around to Mawsons Hut. A pleasant night looking at the ft& moon and reading poems by Henry Lawson and Banjo PatterSon. An ley crossing of the Valentine started Day 3 before Climbing up the Cup and Saucer as well as Mailbox Hill. Continued on via The Brassy's to camp at Tin Hut. More snow overnight reduced visibility on Day 4 to 40 metres or less and made challenging navigation over Gungarten Pass. Weather cleared allowing some XCDing before visiting Whites River Hut and Disappointment Spur enroute to the cars
-In all 1 huts in 4 days - quite an acceptable alterative to original plan. Try again next year! Victoriatt Odysaetr - Southern Alps (27/8_6./...21
-litiptet, Climbed up Mt 13ogong via Eskdale.Spur to, set up camp ,below Quartz. Knob. Good skiing and touring around West Summit After dinner that ,night we skied by the light of the full moon to the summit to enjoy the sights of stars and the lights of towns spread out around us.. Next day we traversed the plateau-like top of Mt. &gong to camp at Cleve Cole hut. This is a huge well built stone hut whicli,provided a refuge throughlhe next two days of heavy rain (mitch sleeping in, book 'reading. and 500 playing). Finally eight inches of snow fell and allowed us to tour: the 'southern end of the mountain before heading out. This included a worthwhile trip to Howman Falls.
-IrAp 2t After a night in the pub at Harrietville we caught the bus to Diamantina Hut to ski/walk along the Razorback, Ridge in thin snow conditions to MUMC hut. Next day up the steep ridge to enjoy magnificent views from the top of Mt. Feathertop. LinforinnatelY the thin snow conditions limited XCDing quite severely leading us to shift Camp to Federation hut that night and walk Out via the Bugalow spur next day.
 In all, nine days of cross-country skiing with a mix of snow levels but great scenery.
-Untie The track from Trappers Gap to Mountain Creek Saddle requires 4WD due to deep holes.
-/2 hours from saddle to Mitchell's Hut. Small, not well finished, sleeps five on bunks. Very active native rats. Continue for 300 m. to pleasant campsite, partially sheltered from wind on Esdale Spur just before treeline. In West Summit the most sheltered campsite is Bogong Creek at G/R 224 330. Cleve Cole Hut can sleep 12 on bunks, is large and well finished.
+===Additional guide notes for people interested in skiing or walking in Southern Alps.===
-Accommodation in Bon Accord Cabins from $20/night + $5 for large ha country breakfast. They, also run bus service up to Mt Hotham, With pickups and dropoffs by arrangement. fares $22 one way. $31 return. Secure parking also available. It takes 2/3 of a day to ski Razorback with a full pack.
-MUMC Hut is a large geodesic bowl, sleep 15. No stove, a cold but Design lets in moisture causing drips and puddles unless doors and windows are left open to dry out hut when you arrive. It is big enough for a dance, has great songbooks and beat Alpine views in Australia. Federation Hut has a loft sleeps six and space downstairs for more.
+__Trip 1__: The track from Trappers Gap to Mountain Creek Saddle requires 4WD due to deep holes. 1 1/2 hours from saddle to Mitchell's Hut. Small, not well finished, sleeps five on bunks. Very active native rats. Continue for 300 m. to pleasant campsite, partially sheltered from wind on Esdale Spur just before treeline. In West Summit the most sheltered campsite is Bogong Creek at G/R 224 330. Cleve Cole Hut can sleep 12 on bunks, is large and well finished.
-Bungalow Spur track is 10.1 km long and was made for horse and carts. Benched and well graded. Makes a lovely walk through Mountain Ash. 2-21/2 hours downhill, 3-4 hours uphill with a pack. My recommendation for visits to Feathertop is to ski in via The Razorback and exit down Bungalow Spur for your first trip. Subsequent trips should go in and out via Bungalow Spur.
-Getting tbere ared back
+__Trip__: Accommodation in Bon Accord Cabins from $20/night + $5 for large hot country breakfast. They also run bus service up to Mt Hotham with pickups and dropoffs by arrangement. Fares $22 one way, $31 return. Secure parking also available. It takes 2/3 of a day to ski Razorback with a full pack. MUMC Hut is a large geodesic bowl, sleep 15. No stove, a cold hut. Design lets in moisture causing drips and puddles unless doors and windows are left open to dry out hut when you arrive. It is big enough for a dance, has great songbooks and best Alpine views in Australia. Federation Hut has a loft sleeps six and space downstairs for more. Bungalow Spur track is 10.1 km long and was made for horse and carts. Benched and well graded. Makes a lovely walk through Mountain Ash. 2 - 2 1/2 hours downhill, 3-4 hours uphill with a pack. My recommendation for visits to Feathertop is to ski in via The Razorback and exit down Bungalow Spur for your first trip. Subsequent trips should go in and out via Bungalow Spur.
+===Getting there and back.===
 The increase in dual carriage way and the town bypasses have greatly reduced travelling time from Sydney. Excluding stops Liverpool to Mountain creek is 7 hours.
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-PAGE ti THE SYDNEY BUSHWALKEK UUltAlt.K IY/3
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-THE CONFEDERATION OF 8USHWALKING CLUBS NSW INCORPORATED
-Tony Parr
+=====Ettrema Access.=====
-Ettrema Access  Senior Vice President
-Quiera clearing, on the Tolworig Road west of Ettrema gorge has been used as a parking area by bushwalkers for manv years.
-The clearing is held under freehold title by the Rolfe family. Despite rumours to the contrary the ownership of the clearing has not recently changed. Until now there has been no problem with bushwalkers parking along the roadside in the clearing but recently an increase in the amount of rubbish
+Tony Parr, Senior Vice President, the Confederation of Bushwalking Clubs NSW Incorporated.
- being left behind has angered the owners They, quite justifiably, are concerned about the danger to their stock 'posed by this 'rubbish which includes glass as well as metal and plastic. have assured the owners that it is most unlikely that bushwalkers would have been responsible for this 'littering. However, the only way that we can prove this and, once again, restore a cordial relationship with the local land holders is to ensure that our members leave their vehicles in the park rather than on freehold land. Perhaps-if we do this we will prove that the allegations being levelled against us are unfounded and that the real culprits will be found.
-For those heading into the gorge via Ivlyail Creek an alternative parking area that I have used for many years is on the Tolwong Road near the high point 764 (GR 407240 on the Touga 1:25000, map). There is parking fbr at least ten vehicles off the road at this point. From this location there is a good ridge
+Quiera clearing, on the Tolwong Road west of Ettrema gorge has been used as a parking area by bushwalkers for manv years.
-, leading into Myall. Creek as well as easy access to Sent-1y Box Canyon via Churinga Head. There are other possibilities both betbre and after Quiera Clearing for off road parking. The boundaries of the clearing are accurately marked on the Touga map.
-There is, potentially, a similar problem at Tullyangela Cleating which is held under freehold title by the Crisp farnily. 1 have heard of no such problerrito date but our members should bear in mind that they May alienate locals by unauthorised parking on private property and to be Size that they practice lq18 principles at all times.
+The clearing is held under freehold title by the Rolfe family. Despite rumours to the contrary the ownership of the clearing has not recently changed. Until now there has been no problem with bushwalkers parking along the roadside in the clearing but recently an increase in the amount of rubbish being left behind has angered the owners. They, quite justifiably, are concerned about the danger to their stock posed by this rubbish which includes glass as well as metal and plastic.
+I have assured the owners that it is most unlikely that bushwalkers would have been responsible for this littering. However, the only way that we can prove this and, once again, restore a cordial relationship with the local land holders is to ensure that our members leave their vehicles in the park rather than on freehold land. Perhaps if we do this we will prove that the allegations being levelled against us are unfounded and that the real culprits will be found.
+For those heading into the gorge via Myall Creek an alternative parking area that I have used for many years is on the Tolwong Road near the high point 764 (GR 407240 on the Touga 1:25000, map). There is parking for at least ten vehicles off the road at this point. From this location there is a good ridge leading into Myall Creek as well as easy access to Sentry Box Canyon via Churinga Head. There are other possibilities both before and after Quiera Clearing for off road parking. The boundaries of the clearing are accurately marked on the Touga map.
+There is, potentially, a similar problem at Tullyangela Clearing which is held under freehold title by the Crisp farnily. I have heard of no such problem to date but our members should bear in mind that they may alienate locals by unauthorised parking on private property and to be sure that they practice MIB principles at all times.
 Details of any vehicles or persons apparently acting in such a way as to lead to us being blamed for these acts of littering should be passed on to Confederation or to the National Parks & Wildlife Service office at Nowra.
-* * * A MESSAGE FROM YOUR WALKS SECRETARY * *
-The Summer Walks Programme is now being prepared.. Even while I am away on leave throughout October the late night lights still burn as TONY HOLGAM., takes over organising the programme during my absence.
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-Like me, Tony would welcome your phone calls advising new, and exciting walks in December, January and February. Swimming, liloing and canyoning. Also the walks in familiar areas. n_ojit torget the extended aiN_ALgyer_cktigim-
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+=====A Message From Your Walks Secretary.=====
-Tony Holgate's telephone numbers are 428 5294 (h) 922 8792 (w). You can fax walks to him but please phone first. Also, as I will be back late in the month any faxes to inc will be okay as they will be held until my return.
+The Summer Walks Programme is now being prepared. Even while I am away on leave throughout October the late night lights still burn as Tony Holgate takes over organising the programme during my absence.
+Like me, Tony would welcome your phone calls advising new, and exciting walks in December, January and February. Swimming, liloing and canyoning. Also the walks in familiar areas. __Don't forget the extended walks over Christmas and New Year.__
+Tony Holgate's telephone numbers are 428 5294 (h) 922 8792 (w). You can fax walks to him but please phone first. Also, as I will be back late in the month any faxes to me will be okay as they will be held until my return.
 Remember, early bookings get the best choice of dates.
 Bill Holland
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-. OCTOBER-101 THE SYDNEYBUSHWALKER PAGE 11
-ON BEING "GEOGRAPHICALLY CORRECT"
 by Jim Brown
-As one who usually reads the "Letters to the Editor" in the Sydney Morning
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-Herald, I found. a period, about two months, ago when a vast amount of comment was being made about being "politically corTect". This term, Which still pops up
-from time to time, evidently refers to people making public statements that conform with the broadly accepted opinion on certain topics = and not "rocking the boat".. Some of the Herald's correspondents maintained that this practice has a stultifying effect on free speech, and anyone should be allowed (without being accused of being "politically.INcorrect") to make public pronouncements that are sometimes: highly bigoted and outrageously partisan - such as some of the opinions expressed on the "Mabo Question".
-Bushwalkers, of course, are not much concerned about being "politically correct". We are more likely to see if the issue is "Geographically correct".
-No, I don't mean simply ensuring that walking parties are not led into perilous situations, or mislaid.(.because, of course, bushwalkers are never "lost", just
-"mislaid"). By "geograPhically correct" I mean conducting a major part of the walking in the region favoured, or "in _vogue" at that time
-Has this occurred? In the past? Oh, My word, yes, and it did for a good many years. About the time (1946/7Yihen I was "serving my apprenticeship" as a prospective, ever so many of the weekend walks incorporated Splendour Rock. I think it would be fair to say that, at least every second weekend, appeared
+As one who usually reads the "Letters to the Editor" in the Sydney Morning Herald, I found a period about two months ago when a vast amount of comment was being made about being "politically correct". This term, which still pops up from time to time, evidently refers to people making public statements that conform with the broadly accepted opinion on certain topics - and not "rocking the boat". Some of the Herald's correspondents maintained that this practice has a stultifying effect on free speech, and anyone should be allowed (without being accused of being "politically INcorrect") to make public pronouncements that are sometimes highly bigoted and outrageously partisan - such as some of the opinions expressed on the "Mabo Question".
-the familiar formula "Katoomba - Clear Hill - Splendour Rock - something or other 'Dog' or 'Pup.- Cox's River", then back to Blackheath, Katoomba or Wentworth Falls for the Sunday night train home. Well, 'of course, we had few c6rs, and
-even. if you did own a car, not enough petrol for that sort of travel.... Oh, dear; oh dear! =almost in' the Dark Ages, weren't we?
+Bushwalkers, of course, are not much concerned about being "politically correct". We are more likely to see if the issue is "Geographically correct". No, I don't mean simply ensuring that walking parties are not led into perilous situations, or mislaid (because, of course, bushwalkers are never "lost", just "mislaid"). By "geographically correct" I mean conducting a major part of the walking in the region favoured, or "in vogue" at that time.
-Later other vogues and crazes came to the fore. In the late 1950s, the
-Budawang Mountains around The Castle and Mount Owen were the flavour of the year. Ten years on it was Danj era and Bundundah Creeks, north of the Sassafras/ Braldwood 3oad.
+Has this occurred? In the past? Oh, My word, yes, and it did for a good many years. About the time (1946/7) when I was "serving my apprenticeship" as a prospective, ever so many of the weekend walks incorporated Splendour Rock. I think it would be fair to say that, at least every second weekend, appeared the familiar formula "Katoomba - Clear Hill - Splendour Rock - something or other 'Dog' or 'Pup' - Cox's River", then back to Blackheath, Katoomba or Wentworth Falls for the Sunday night train home. Well, of course, we had few cars, and even if you did own a car, not enough petrol for that sort of travel.... Oh, dear, oh dear! almost in the Dark Ages, weren't we?
-When. this notion flitted into my mind, I deliberately dissected a couple of recent Walks Programs, tallying the trips under several headings -
-(1) Budawangs/Shoalhaven, (2) Southern Blue Mountains, (3) Central Blue Mountains, (4) Northern Blue Mountains and (5) Other Northern. Amazing! - no particular
+Later other vogues and crazes came to the fore. In the late 1950s, the Budawang Mountains around The Castle and Mount Owen were the flavour of the year. Ten years on it was Danjera and Bundundah Creeks, north of the Sassafras/Braidwood Road.
-region came out markedly in front. Can it 1). we no longer know what it is to
-be Geographically Correct?
+When this notion flitted into my mind, I deliberately dissected a couple of recent Walks Programs, tallying the trips under several headings - (1) Budawangs/Shoalhaven, (2) Southern Blue Mountains, (3) Central Blue Mountains, (4) Northern Blue Mountains and (5) Other Northern. Amazing! - no particular region came out markedly in front. Can it be we no longer know what it is to be Geographically Correct?
-. If this is so, if we no longer have some regions that we favour above all' others, that have to appear repeatedly in the Walks Program, then I think we've done all right, got the sensible signals. I've since looked back through Walks Programs covering several years and all tell a similar story - we spread our walking and no longer focus on a restricted bit of ground at any one time.
-, Naturally, there are a few regions that aren't receiving the attention they may deserve. From my cursory examination, I felt the Grose River (apart from Blue Gum Forest and a few kilometres Upstream from that feature) was largely ignored. Perhaps we are being wary of the reported polluted state of the Grose. Also the Southern Blue Mountains - the region south from Kanangra and extending over to the Blue Breaks, Yerranderie, Tomat and Middle Wollondilly - gets only
+If this is so, if we no longer have some regions that we favour above all others, that have to appear repeatedly in the Walks Program, then I think we've done all right, got the sensible signals. I've since looked back through Walks Programs covering several years and all tell a similar story - we spread our walking and no longer focus on a restricted bit of ground at any one time.
-sketchy attention.
-To mY surprise the area I will call the North-North Budawangs - the big creek system draining north from the Sassafras Range towards the Shoalhaven, with streams like Ettrema, Boolijah, Danjera, has few mentions. There was a period in the 1960s/1970s when that country had a real vogue, and of course
+Naturally, there are a few regions that aren't receiving the attention they may deserve. From my cursory examination, I felt the Grose River (apart from Blue Gum Forest and a few kilometres upstream from that feature) was largely ignored. Perhaps we are being wary of the reported polluted state of the Grose. Also the Southern Blue Mountains - the region south from Kanangra and extending over to the Blue Breaks, Yerranderie, Tomat and Middle Wollondilly - gets only sketchy attention.
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-THE SYDNEY BUSHICALKER
+To my surprise the area I will call the North-North Budawangs - the big creek system draining north from the Sassafras Range towards the Shoalhaven, with streams like Ettrema, Boolijah, Danjera, has few mentions. There was a period in the 1960s/1970s when that country had a real vogue, and of course SBW members were very much involved in the original exploration - as evidenced by names such as Colley Plateau, Putt Flat and Leyden Creek.
-OCTOBER 19V..1
-SBW members were very much involved in the original exploration - as evidenced by names such as Colley Plateau, Putt Flat and Leyden Creek.
+Come to think of it.... back in 1947 I must have been one of the outrageous "free speech" advocates. The first walk that I conducted for the Club was in the then unpopular Southern Blue Mountains, including a passage over Beloon Gap: next, a 1 1/2 day walk on the Illawarra Escarpment, along a spectacular bit of the Unanderra/Moss Vale Railway, and soon afterwards a "crossing" of the Blue Labyrinth from Burragorang to Glenbrook. Oh, well, I enjoyed every minute of it all, both the new bushland areas and the best people I had ever met going along with me.
-Come to think of it.... back in 1947 I must have,been-one of the outrageous free speech" advocates. The first walk that I conducted for the Club was in the then unpopular Southern Blue Mountains, including a passage over Beloon Gap: next, a 14 day walk on the Illawarra Escarpment, along a spectacular bit of the Unanderra/Moss Vale Railway, and soon afterwards a "crossing" of the Blue Labyrinth from Burragorang to Glenbrook. Oh, well, I enjoyed every minute of it all, both the new bushland areas and the best people I had ever met going along with me.
-So, walkers, enjoy your "Geographically INcorrect" Walks Program, which really is delightfully varied. What's more, we have been seeing programslike that for about seven or eight years now. Lovely. Let it continue!
+So, walkers, enjoy your "Geographically INcorrect" Walks Program, which really is delightfully varied. What's more, we have been seeing programs like that for about seven or eight years now. Lovely. Let it continue!
-Walk Statistics
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+=====Walk Statistics.=====
 Patrick James
-On a recent walk in Morton National Park in respect to the people on the walk were noted - number of walkers
- number of menibers
+On a recent walk in Morton National Park in August 1993 the following statistics with respect to the people on the walk were noted:
-number of prospectives
-number of leaders
+|number of walkers| 8|
-number of visitors
+|number of members| 7|
-number with beards
+|number of prospectives| 1|
-number of teachers
+|number of leaders| 1|
-number wearing glasses
+|number of visitors| 0|
-number of men
+|number with beards| 1|
-number of grandparents
+|number of teachers| 2|
- number of women
+|number wearing glasses| 3|
-number -without beards
+|number of men| 4|
-number of different brands of packs number of assistant leaders number of torches
+|number of grandparents| 2|
-number of mathematicians
+|number of women| 4|
-number of navigators
+|number without beards| 7|
-number. of co-navigators number,of casting votes
+|number of different brands of packs| 6|
-number of metallurgists
+|number of assistant leaders| 7|
-number righthanded
+|number of torches| 9|
-number lefthanded
+|number of mathematicians| 3|
-number ambidextrous
+|number of navigators| 1|
-number of wet feet
+|number of co-navigators| 9|
-number wearing tramping boots number of supplies of rum
+|number of casting votes| 1|
-August 1993 the following statistics with
+|number of metallurgists| 2|
+|number righthanded| 8|
+|number lefthanded| 0|
+|number ambidextrous|not recorded|
+|number of wet feet| 3|
+|number wearing tramping boots| 1|
+|number of supplies of rum| 4|
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+The September General Meeting.
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-PAGE 14 - THE SYDNEY BUSHWALKER OCTOBER IVY.,
 by Barry Mallace
 It was around 2015 when the President in the chair ganged the gong and called the 20 or so members present to order. There were apologies from Margaret Niven, Lorraine Bloomfield, Spiro Hajinakitas,and Zol Bodlay.