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199701 [2016/12/06 00:13] – [In This issue] joan199701 [2016/12/06 21:44] – [The Big Dipper Blocks The Yahoos of Yalwal] joan
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 **Weekend Test Walk, November 23 - 24, led by Tony Manes**\\ **Weekend Test Walk, November 23 - 24, led by Tony Manes**\\
  
-Reported by George Carter (with additions by Elwyn Moms)+Reported by George Carter (with additions by Elwyn Morris)
  
 Till recently, the peace of the pristine Yalwal Creek on Morton National Park, with its once idyllic campspots, clear pools and granite rocks, was shattered every weekend by yahoos on trailer bikes and hoons in four wheel drives. Till recently, the peace of the pristine Yalwal Creek on Morton National Park, with its once idyllic campspots, clear pools and granite rocks, was shattered every weekend by yahoos on trailer bikes and hoons in four wheel drives.
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 LUCK NEEDED\\ LUCK NEEDED\\
-At least that's my opinion - and even Tony admitted he got tired! But he had a lot of luck, which he needed. First, it rained and blew so hard and the forecast was so grim on Friday that ten of the 15 cancelled, including a father and son who'd spent $180 on hiring equipment. This left five fit, determined people - members Tony, Kay, and Kate, and two prospectives, Phil (a very experienced walker), and myself. I'd have gone even if it was snowing, having had Sunday rehearsals for months, that stopped me from completing my final membership requirement.+At least that's my opinion - and even Tony admitted he got tired! But he had a lot of luck, which he needed. First, it rained and blew so hard and the forecast was so grim on Friday that 10 of the 15 cancelled, including a father and son who'd spent $180 on hiring equipment. This left five fit, determined people - members Tony, Kay, and Kate, and two prospectives, Phil (a very experienced walker), and myself. I'd have gone even if it was snowing, having had Sunday rehearsals for months, that stopped me from completing my final membership requirement.
  
 Secondly, Saturday was cold - in late November! A week before, there'd been a heatwave, and a week later, there was another. Maybe the cold sent any snakes, ticks, leeches or mosquitoes back into hibernation, as we met none. A cool wind and light showers proved a blessing on the long steep climb through very thick, scratchy scrub, which gave my knees, left uncovered by gaiters or shorts, the required SBW initiation scars. Secondly, Saturday was cold - in late November! A week before, there'd been a heatwave, and a week later, there was another. Maybe the cold sent any snakes, ticks, leeches or mosquitoes back into hibernation, as we met none. A cool wind and light showers proved a blessing on the long steep climb through very thick, scratchy scrub, which gave my knees, left uncovered by gaiters or shorts, the required SBW initiation scars.
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-A reply to Maurice Smiths "EXCESS"+===== Expanding Horizons ===== 
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 +**A reply to Maurice Smiths "EXCESS"**\\
 I agree that numbers attending walks, being day, weekend or extended, should be limited in numbers due to all the reasons given by Maurice. I feel a more reasonable average would be 10 - 15 with an allowance for those walkers who book on walks and don't have the courtesy to notify the leader when they decide not to attend. Thus depriving others from going, or having the leader arrive at the start with no followers. I agree that numbers attending walks, being day, weekend or extended, should be limited in numbers due to all the reasons given by Maurice. I feel a more reasonable average would be 10 - 15 with an allowance for those walkers who book on walks and don't have the courtesy to notify the leader when they decide not to attend. Thus depriving others from going, or having the leader arrive at the start with no followers.
  
 Another reason for having larger numbers on walks is so that "Sub groups" mentioned by Maurice don't spoil a walk don't spoil a walk for the rest of the group:- especially prospectives. It seems to me that Maurice is trying to split club members into small "sub groups" instead of forcing members to mingle and educate prospectives in all aspects of bushwalking etiquette. Another reason for having larger numbers on walks is so that "Sub groups" mentioned by Maurice don't spoil a walk don't spoil a walk for the rest of the group:- especially prospectives. It seems to me that Maurice is trying to split club members into small "sub groups" instead of forcing members to mingle and educate prospectives in all aspects of bushwalking etiquette.
  
-If numbers on walks are limited as suggested by Maurice; I believe we will have more cancellations of walks due to "no shows", prospectives may find it very difficult to get on a programmed walk and walks being booked out before the walks program comes out. This would eventually lead to the slow death of SBW.+If numbers on walks are limited as suggested by Maurice; I believe we will have more cancellations of walks due to "no shows", prospectives may find it very difficult to get on a programmed walk and walks being booked out before the walks programme comes out. This would eventually lead to the slow death of SBW.
  
 Conclusions: Yes! We must limit numbers on walks. No! Leaders should not have to appear before the committee for exceeding limits. Numbers on walks should be left to the discretion of the experienced leader who knows what is required for his or her walk. If anything, educate inexperienced leaders. What would happen to classic social walks such as "The K to K" and "The Six Foot Track" and many other extended walks. Conclusions: Yes! We must limit numbers on walks. No! Leaders should not have to appear before the committee for exceeding limits. Numbers on walks should be left to the discretion of the experienced leader who knows what is required for his or her walk. If anything, educate inexperienced leaders. What would happen to classic social walks such as "The K to K" and "The Six Foot Track" and many other extended walks.
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 The following weekend, 30 November, 1 December saw Tony Holgate's family weekend in Nayook Creak with 17 on the Saturday and 6 on Sunday enjoying a pretty creek with plenty of time to look around. As is sometimes the way with families, there was some disputation as to the exact detail of what went on, but most agreed it was great weekend, and that they came out at around 1530. Greg Bridge's trip in Erskine Creek on the Saturday was subject to no such disputation, there were no details of any kind. Ron Waters led 16 on his walk near Macquarie Pass in a circular fashion such that they emerged at around 1600. Elwyn Morris cancelled her Forestville to Manly Wharf walk. The following weekend, 30 November, 1 December saw Tony Holgate's family weekend in Nayook Creak with 17 on the Saturday and 6 on Sunday enjoying a pretty creek with plenty of time to look around. As is sometimes the way with families, there was some disputation as to the exact detail of what went on, but most agreed it was great weekend, and that they came out at around 1530. Greg Bridge's trip in Erskine Creek on the Saturday was subject to no such disputation, there were no details of any kind. Ron Waters led 16 on his walk near Macquarie Pass in a circular fashion such that they emerged at around 1600. Elwyn Morris cancelled her Forestville to Manly Wharf walk.
-There was no report for Ian Wolfe's canyon trips over the weekend of 6, 7, 8 December and Patrick James' Kanuka Brook gourmet weekend was cancelled. Possibly those who read the list of who should attend were stricken by ennui and subsided into lachrymose catatonia. On the other hand they may have become so wretched they lay retching quietly in some foreign field that is forever amber. The combined bludge weekend and Christmas party with Mudgee Bushwalkers under Wendy Arnott is an unknown quantity. Tony Maynes led 5 on his Bundeena to Otford via the coast walk on the Saturday after some late cancellations by people who were apparently keeping a close eye on the weather. As it happened they had only one thunderstorm and that in the afternoon. Zol Bodlay had 12 on his Aboriginal Workshop walk that day. Thunder stalked the party throughout the walk, culminating in a very sudden storm late in the day. Jacqui Calandra had 12 on her visit to Pigface Point. Wilf Hilder accomplished the final stage of his circumwhatevering of Port Jackson with the party of 14 enjoying an impromptu feed of sausages at Reef Beach. It seems the locals were celebrating the non nudist status of "their" beach with a public barbecue. Don Brooks was still on the infirm list for his Eloura Bushland walk. In this case Mark Weatherly stepped in and led the party of 9 in cool overcast conditions en what was described as a great day. Bill Holland had 8 at the beginning of his Tuesday Walk in the rcn bushland but after the 1, rich swim at the leader'they -I muster +There was no report for Ian Wolfe's canyon trips over the weekend of 6, 7, 8 December and Patrick James' Kanuka Brook gourmet weekend was cancelled. Possibly those who read the list of who should attend were stricken by ennui and subsided into lachrymose catatonia. On the other hand they may have become so wretched they lay retching quietly in some foreign field that is forever amber. The combined bludge weekend and Christmas party with Mudgee Bushwalkers under Wendy Arnott is an unknown quantity. Tony Maynes led 5 on his Bundeena to Otford via the coast walk on the Saturday after some late cancellations by people who were apparently keeping a close eye on the weather. As it happened they had only one thunderstorm and that in the afternoon. Zol Bodlay had 12 on his Aboriginal Workshop walk that day. Thunder stalked the party throughout the walk, culminating in a very sudden storm late in the day. Jacqui Calandra had 12 on her visit to Pigface Point. Wilf Hilder accomplished the final stage of his circumwhatevering of Port Jackson with the party of 14 enjoying an impromptu feed of sausages at Reef Beach. It seems the locals were celebrating the non nudist status of "their" beach with a public barbecue. Don Brooks was still on the infirm list for his Eloura Bushland walk. In this case Mark Weatherly stepped in and led the party of 9 in cool overcast conditions en what was described as a great day. Bill Holland had 8 at the beginning of his Tuesday Walk in the ( )  bushland but after the long lunch and swim at the leader'behest they could muster only 5 to the rocks. A story conclusion to walks reports for the month and indeed the year.
-only 5 to th cic s. A story on to erici ule walks reports for the month and indeed the year.+
  
 Conservation report covered an inconclusive meeting with Sydney Water Corporation over conditions of use to apply in the shared areas of control in the Blue Mountains National Park. There was also a comment that the type of restrictions appearing in the Kakadu plan of management may come to the Sydney area if plans to cede control of National Parks areas to the traditional owners are implemented. A protest to the federal minister responsible for aircraft carrying out low flying practice in river valleys in one of the southern National Parks has brought only a "we have always done it we will continue to do it" response. NP&WS are reported to be working to reduce feral pig numbers in the Kanangra Boyd National Park. There was also mention from the floor that the latest plan of management for The Royal includes a "cabin conservation plan" covering the 299 (count 'em) cabins in the park. Conservation report covered an inconclusive meeting with Sydney Water Corporation over conditions of use to apply in the shared areas of control in the Blue Mountains National Park. There was also a comment that the type of restrictions appearing in the Kakadu plan of management may come to the Sydney area if plans to cede control of National Parks areas to the traditional owners are implemented. A protest to the federal minister responsible for aircraft carrying out low flying practice in river valleys in one of the southern National Parks has brought only a "we have always done it we will continue to do it" response. NP&WS are reported to be working to reduce feral pig numbers in the Kanangra Boyd National Park. There was also mention from the floor that the latest plan of management for The Royal includes a "cabin conservation plan" covering the 299 (count 'em) cabins in the park.
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