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-XXXXXXXXX-X*XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX +=====The Sydney Bushwalker.===== 
-THE SYDNEY BUSHWALKER + 
-EStablished June, 1931. +Established June, 1931. 
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-A monthly bulletin of matters of interestAK) The Sydney Bush Walkers, Box 4476 G.P.O., Sydney, 2001. Club meetings are held every Wednesday evening from 7.30 pm at the Wireless Institute Building, 14 Atchison Street, St. Leonard-s. Enquiries concerning the Club should-be referred to Ann Ravn, Telephone 798,8607. +A monthly bulletin of matters of interest to The Sydney Bush Walkers, Box 4476 G.P.O., Sydney, 2001. Club meetings are held every Wednesday evening from 7.30 pm at the Wireless Institute Building, 14 Atchison Street, St. Leonards. Enquiries concerning the Club shouldbe referred to Ann Ravn, Telephone 798,8607. 
-* * * * * * * * * * * + 
-EDITOR: Helen Gray, 209 Malton Road, Epping, 2121. Telephone 86,6263. +|Editor|Helen Gray, 209 Malton Road, Epping, 2121. Telephone 86,6263.| 
-BUSINESS MANAGER: Bill Burke, 3 Coral Tree Drive, Carlingford,2118. Telephone 871,1207. +|Business Manager|Bill Burke, 3 Coral Tree Drive, Carlingford,2118. Telephone 871,1207.| 
-TYPIST: Kath Brown. +|Typist|Kath Brown.| 
-DUPLICATOR OPERATOR: Phil Butt. +|Duplicator Operator|Phil Butt.| 
-.* * * * * * * * * * * + 
-NOVEMBER, 1981.  +====November, 1981. ==== 
-Main Street, Grose Valley by + 
-Conservation Notes - Utilising the Botanic Gardens Social Notes for December The Skink That Came to Dinner The October General Meeting Historic Woodford-Linden, with Nancye Alderson Advertisement - Eastwood Camping Centre +| | |Page| 
-One More Letter to the Editor Wollemi National Park +|Main Street, Grose Valley|Bill Gamble| 2| 
-Page +|Conservation Notes - Utilising the Botanic Gardens|Alex Colley| 4| 
-Bill Gamble 2 +|Social Notes for December|Peter Miller| 5| 
-Alex Colley 4 +|The Skink That Came to Dinner|Jim Brown| 6| 
-Peter Miller 5 +|The October General Meeting|Barry Wallace| 7| 
-Jim Brown 6 +|Historic Woodford-Linden, with Nancye Alderson|Wal Liddle| 9| 
-Barry Wallace 7 +|Advertisement - Eastwood Camping Centre| |12| 
-Wal Lid-die 9 +|One More Letter to the Editor|Owen Marks|13| 
-12 Owen Marks 13 +|Wollemi National Park| |14| 
-14 + 
-Page 2 THE SYDNEY BUSEWAIKER November1981+=====Main StreetGrose Valley.===== 
-MAINSTRXET, GROSE vaLTEy.+
 by Bill Gamble. by Bill Gamble.
-Some recently-restrrected notes of mine refer to&walk-led by Ian Debert on the weekend of 21/22 March, 1981. The entry on the autumn walks Programme says: + 
-GROSE 'VALLEY - Mt. Hay Road - Lockley Pylon - Du Faur Head - +Some recently resurrected notes of mine refer to walk led by Ian Debert on the weekend of 21/22 March, 1981. The entry on the autumn walks programme says: 
-Bluegum Forest - Victoria Falls. Saturday morning car swap. Maps: Katoomba, Mt.Wilson 1231680, , 14.km. Medium. + 
-The notes interest me because they leave a clear impression of a rather +__Grose Valley__ - Mt. Hay Road - Lockley Pylon - Du Faur Head - Bluegum Forest - Victoria Falls. Saturday morning car swap. Maps: Katoomba, Mt.Wilson 1:31680. 14.km. Medium. 
-Crowded bushwalk, something I have felt for a while about the Grose Valley! Anyway, the notes have been now stitched into a belated account for the magazine. + 
-Flash from his big win in Paddy Pallin's 50th Anniversary Outdoor +The notes interest me because they leave a clear impression of a rather cowded bushwalk, something I have felt for a while about the Grose Valley! Anyway, the notes have been now stitched into a belated account for the magazine. 
-Photographic competition, Ian was a late starter getting away from Sydney on the Friday evening. It must have been around 9.30 pm before we left the exhibition of photographs being held in the Sydney University Law School Assembly Hall. In Joy Hynes' car were Colin Barnes, Julie English (a visitor from Santa Cruz, California), Bill Gamble and, of course, Ian. Stan and Jenny Madden shot through in their VW Campmobile. + 
-There was a brief stop in Blaxland for a couple of Ian's Apex friends-- Jeff and Kerry - to join us; and sometime around midnight we turned off the Great Western Highway at Leura for the run out to the Pinnacles for a car camp. Such is the steadily deteriorating condition of this dirt road, that the muffler came adrift and by the time temporary repairs were effected it was near 1.00 am before we reached the water tank. Stan and Jenny had long since pulled off the road and settled down for the night. Bob Sames and Kathy Gero were disturbed by OUT noisy arrival. So too was Bill Holland,+Flash from his big win in Paddy Pallin's 50th Anniversary Outdoor Photographic competition, Ian was a late starter getting away from Sydney on the Friday evening. It must have been around 9.30 pm before we left the exhibition of photographs being held in the Sydney University Law School Assembly Hall. In Joy Hynes' car were Colin Barnes, Julie English (a visitor from Santa Cruz, California), Bill Gamble and, of course, Ian. Stan and Jenny Madden shot through in their VW Campmobile. 
-if my memory is right. Under a full moannand warm temperatures, most settled for ground sheets along the side of the road. Indicative of a desire for the comforts of life, Ian and Joy inflated rubber mattresses (by use of an electric pump, not by hand) and then reclined in a degree of comfortabledecadence by the light of the silviry moon.+ 
 +There was a brief stop in Blaxland for a couple of Ian's Apex friends- Jeff and Kerry - to join us; and sometime around midnight we turned off the Great Western Highway at Leura for the run out to the Pinnacles for a car camp. Such is the steadily deteriorating condition of this dirt road, that the muffler came adrift and by the time temporary repairs were effected it was near 1.00 am before we reached the water tank. Stan and Jenny had long since pulled off the road and settled down for the night. Bob Sames and Kathy Gero were disturbed by our noisy arrival. So too was Bill Holland, if my memory is right. Under a full moon and warm temperatures, most settled for ground sheets along the side of the road. Indicative of a desire for the comforts of life, Ian and Joy inflated rubber mattresses (by use of an electric pump, not by hand) and then reclined in a degree of comfortable decadence by the light of the silv'ry moon. 
 The clear, warm conditions continued into the morning, but not much farther. By the time the car swap had occurred, it was after 10.00 am and clouds were scudding across the sky from the south as we walked out from the Pinnacles. John Newman arrived with the car swap. The clear, warm conditions continued into the morning, but not much farther. By the time the car swap had occurred, it was after 10.00 am and clouds were scudding across the sky from the south as we walked out from the Pinnacles. John Newman arrived with the car swap.
-We ambled out towards Lockley Pylon, behind another group of walkers,in rather humid conditions and scrambled up to the Pylon. Someone recorded bur names for posterity in the book. It was then.suggested that we ought to get ourselves into gear and move down to Bluegum Foregt for lunch. In retrospect, I think a weekend walk of 14 km on tracks is conducive to a certain slothfulness.+ 
 +We ambled out towards Lockley Pylon, behind another group of walkers, in rather humid conditions and scrambled up to the Pylon. Someone recorded our names for posterity in the book. It was then suggested that we ought to get ourselves into gear and move down to Bluegum Foregt for lunch. In retrospect, I think a weekend walk of 14 km on tracks is conducive to a certain slothfulness. 
 There was an extended lunch at Bluegum Forest amid the visiting throngs and then, for some reason, a hell-bent race to Little Bluegum for overnight camp. The drizzle had now become persistent, but the generous camp fire gave off enough heat to quickly dry any accumulating dampness on clothes. There was an extended lunch at Bluegum Forest amid the visiting throngs and then, for some reason, a hell-bent race to Little Bluegum for overnight camp. The drizzle had now become persistent, but the generous camp fire gave off enough heat to quickly dry any accumulating dampness on clothes.
-Page 3 THE SYDNEY BUSHWALKER November, 1981. + 
- Sing-along efforts were hesitant, but conversation was spirited and varied, assisted by assorted medicinal fortifications. La-Wile-Ss of hour +Sing-along efforts were hesitant, but conversation was spirited and varied, assisted by assorted medicinal fortifications. Latenesss of hour and the rising level of dampness eventually put us all down for the night. 
-and the rising level'of-dampness-eventually -put us all down for the night. + 
- The following morning, in a brilliant burst of sustained walking forabout an haul.; we madeit through to the turnoff to Pierces Pass. In what was probably the bushwalkers' equivalent of getting one's gear off in Martin Place, some of the party decided on a swim in a long, deep pool. It was well worth the exposure. We left this busy place and found a break in the weather and a warm lunchstop at Burra Korain campsite. Enroute, we met briefly Tony Marshall's aborted Zobel Gully walk coming down the valley. Rudi Dezelin stopped for a few minutes, but the remainder seemed hell bent to get somewhere. They all added to a valley peppered with people. At Burra Korain, Ian produced what looked like .a converted tennis racquet to go yabbying, and some followed his unsuccessful efforts with interest. +The following morning, in a brilliant burst of sustained walking for about an hour, we made it through to the turnoff to Pierces Pass. In what was probably the bushwalkers' equivalent of getting one's gear off in Martin Place, some of the party decided on a swim in a long, deep pool. It was well worth the exposure. We left this busy place and found a break in the weather and a warm lunchstop at Burra Korain campsite. Enroute, we met briefly Tony Marshall's aborted Zobel Gully walk coming down the valley. Rudi Dezelin stopped for a few minutes, but the remainder seemed hell bent to get somewhere. They all added to a valley peppered with people. At Burra Korain, Ian produced what looked like a converted tennis racquet to go yabbying, and some followed his unsuccessful efforts with interest. 
- The uphill grind tothe Victoria Falls Lookout contained certain + 
-diversions. Kerry, a newcomer to walking, found the going a little tough, but a transfer of gear to other packs put her back on the track and we did not have to leave her behind. Also, Joy slipped with grace and style off +The uphill grind to the Victoria Falls Lookout contained certain diversions. Kerry, a newcomer to walking, found the going a little tough, but a transfer of gear to other packs put her back on the track and we did not have to leave her behind. Also, Joy slipped with grace and style off a rock and into a deep pool, reflecting her keen interest in Bob's effort to lure a yabby successfully. 
-a rock and into a deep pool, reflecting her keen interest in Bob's effort to lure a yabby successfully. + 
-From Victoria Falls Lookout darpark, all the rest is literally downhill. There was time, using Stan's Campmobile, for a short diversion in fading light to show our Californian visitor the Megalong and Jamison Valleys and +From Victoria Falls Lookout carpark, all the rest is literally downhill. There was time, using Stan's Campmobile, for a short diversion in fading light to show our Californian visitor the Megalong and Jamison Valleys and the splendour of Mount Solitary from well-known vantage points. A brief stop at Leura to join the reclaimed vehicle left at the Pinnacles, then, for some, a chinese meal at Blaxland and copious cups of tea. 
-the splendour of Mount Solitary from well-known vantage points.. A brief stop at Leura to join the reclaimed vehicle left at the Pinnacles, then, for some, a chinese meal at Blaxland and copious cups of tea.+
 Finally, there is an impression. The beauty of the Grose Valley is undoubted, but its place in a bushwalker's hiking list could well have to change. The centre part of the valley is crowded for more than day hiking, if peace and quiet and few people are sought. More attention may have to be given to the Upper Grose above Burra Korain, and the Grose downstream from Bluegum Forest. Finally, there is an impression. The beauty of the Grose Valley is undoubted, but its place in a bushwalker's hiking list could well have to change. The centre part of the valley is crowded for more than day hiking, if peace and quiet and few people are sought. More attention may have to be given to the Upper Grose above Burra Korain, and the Grose downstream from Bluegum Forest.
-* * * * * * * * * * * * * + 
-The CLUB. AUCTION held on 28th October as a highly successful event. +---- 
-Despite petrol.rationing about 60 people attended, and many were in a buying + 
-mood. +The __Club Auction__ held on 28th October as a highly successful event. Despite petrol rationing about 60 people attended, and many were in a buying mood. 
-The Auctioneer, Charlie Brown, was in top form and had an appropriate + 
-and humourous remark for each item presented. 'What's more he kept it up +The Auctioneer, Charlie Brown, was in top form and had an appropriate and humourous remark for each item presented. What's more he kept it up for an hour and a half, and almost managed to sell Dot's sandals (which had been removed to allow her to creep up on bidders and wring their arms). Bidding for some quality items was brisk and even white elephants went for modest sums. After the close of formal bidding, people gathered about the left-overs and some supplementary items were disposed of. 
-for an hour and a half, and almost managed to,sell Dot's sandals (which had been removed to allow her to creep up on bidders and wring their arms). Bidding for some quality items was brisk and even white elephants went for modest .sums. After the close of formal 'bidding, people gathered about the left-ov.-e-rs and some supplementary items were disposed of. + 
-The whole evening was great entertainment and produced $192.00, which was increased to about $210 by subsequent deals. It has now been paid in +The whole evening was great entertainment and produced $192.00, which was increased to about $210 by subsequent deals. It has now been paid in to the Coolana Account. 
-to the Coolana Account. + 
-****xxx +---- 
-Page 4 THE SYDNEY BUSHWAIKER November, 1981. + 
-CONSERVATION NOTES. by Alex Colley. UTILISING TEE BOTANIC GARDENS.  +=====Conservation Notes.===== 
-On 25th October a party of SPROUT members arrived at the Botanic + 
-Gardens equipped with chain saws, axes and a Management Plan. Their aim was to make proper productive use of this hitherto "locked-up" area. +by Alex Colley. 
-Explaining the aims of theloggers the spokeswoman for SPROUT, Miss Penny Figgis, made the following statement:-+ 
 +====Utilising The Botanic Gardens.==== 
 + 
 +On 25th October a party of SPROUT members arrived at the Botanic Gardens equipped with chain saws, axes and a Management Plan. Their aim was to make proper productive use of this hitherto "locked-up" area. 
 + 
 +Explaining the aims of the loggers the spokeswoman for SPROUT, Miss Penny Figgis, made the following statement:- 
 "Ladies and Gentlemen, "Ladies and Gentlemen,
-.I represent a new organisation called SPROUT which stands for "Sensible, Practical ResidentS' Organisation for the Utilisation of Trees"+ 
-It developed as an off-shoot or splinter group of the timber industry. as they seem to be busy logging rainforests, we've stepped in to fill the gap. +I represent a new organisation called SPROUT which stands for "Sensible, Practical Residents' Organisation for the Utilisation of Trees". 
- We formed because we could no longer stand by and watch the Botanic Gardensremain as unproductive land. Whatis the use of it if it doesn!t + 
-produce anything? In fact a valuable timbei resource is simply being locked up by a minority group of selfish recreationists: +It developed as an off-shoot or splinter group of the timber industry. As they seem to be busy logging rainforests, we've stepped in to fill the gap. 
-I may be going out on a limb here but many of these trees are actually more than onei:hundred years old and therefore clearly over-mature, even decadent. 'Surely good sense dictates that they should be replaced bysmart young saplings with vigor 'and rather more self-discipline? Surely we don't want the Botanic Gardens to .become a cemetnnrfor trees? + 
-What is needed is a balanced approach. The gardens should be managed to allow multiple abuse. Everyone should have a stake in the gardens: +We formed because we could no longer stand by and watch the Botanic Gardens remain as unproductive land. What is the use of it if it doesn't produce anything? In fact a valuable timber resource is simply being locked up by a minority group of selfish recreationists
-SPROUT has established that the logging of these trees could bring in at least a few hundred dollars which is not a bad return for the mere + 
-$50,000 of public money we shall spend on building and maintaining logging roads. +I may be going out on a limb here but many of these trees are actually more than one hundred years old and therefore clearly over-mature, even decadent. Surely good sense dictates that they should be replaced by smart young saplings with vigor and rather more self-discipline? Surely we don't want the Botanic Gardens to become a cemetery for trees? 
-And while speaking of logging roads it is very important to realisethat these logging roads will open up this locked-up area to the car- borne public who have previously been denied their democraticright to + 
-total access to absolutely everywhereNo longer will it be the preserve +What is needed is a balanced approach. The gardens should be managed to allow multiple abuse. Everyone should have a stake in the gardens
-of elitist family picnicers. + 
-Now lest any extremist, communist-paid agitators ask any emotional, +SPROUT has established that the logging of these trees could bring in at least a few hundred dollars which is not a bad return for the mere $50,000 of public money we shall spend on building and maintaining logging roads. 
-irrational and naturally ill-informed questions -about the wisdom of our + 
-plan I want to assure you that in the interests of balance we have +And while speaking of logging roads it is very important to realise that these logging roads will open up this locked-up area to the car-borne public who have previously been denied their democratic right to total access to absolutely everywhereNo longer will it be the preserve of elitist family picnicers. 
-followed accepted procedures.+ 
 +Now lest any extremist, communist-paid agitators ask any emotional, irrational and naturally ill-informed questions about the wisdom of our plan I want to assure you that in the interests of balance we have followed accepted procedures. 
 We have prepared an Environmental Impact Statement and a Management Plan. We have prepared an Environmental Impact Statement and a Management Plan.
 +
 First the E.I.S. First the E.I.S.
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- - _ I - . - _ +Intensive, extensive and thorough research undertaken over the last week has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that with the Botanic Gardens Management Area the 8 kilometres of logging road and snig-tracks, the 5 hectares of logging dumps and the logging camp will have no detrimental environmental impact. We have proved for example that grass will regenerate on logging dumps in 8-10 years and that lantana, a most attractive species, will clothe the area in all its glory in an even shorter time. 
-+ . + 
-last week has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that with the Botanic +Logging will be __strictly__ controlled in accordance with the selective logging procedures - that is, we'll select a tree then we'll log it. 
-Gardens Management the 8 kilo Metres Of logging road and snig-tracks, +
-the 5 hectares of logging dumps and the logging camp will have no detrimental environmental impact. We have proved for example that grass will regenerate on logging dumps in 8-10 years and that lantana, a most attractive species, will clothe the area in all its glory in an even shorter time. +
-Logging will be strictly controlled in accordance with the selective logging procedures - that is, we'll select a tree then we'll log it.+
 We feel confident that in 40 years the ordinary person will not be able to tell that logging has taken place (well anyone who remembers what it was like with any luck will have shuffled off). We feel confident that in 40 years the ordinary person will not be able to tell that logging has taken place (well anyone who remembers what it was like with any luck will have shuffled off).
 +
 Now to Management - Now to Management -
-Let it not be said that we do not respect the non-mod values of the gardens - adequate recreation areas will be set aside. Here - an excellent area quite pleasant for picnics and very handy to the toilet block. This lovely reserve will provide for panoramic views of the entire logging operation. + 
-So there you have at last a responsible balanced sensible approach to a public resource. I'm sure you'll agree it's time we were rational about these matters and .stopped rabbiting on about emotional things like ecology, national heritage even beauty! +Let it not be said that we do not respect the non-wood values of the gardens - adequate recreation areas will be set aside. Here - an excellent area quite pleasant for picnics and very handy to the toilet block. This lovely reserve will provide for panoramic views of the entire logging operation. 
-So let's get on-with the logging and hope that little SPROUTS will flourish and grow in every town in Australia! " + 
-XXXXXXXXXXXXXX +So there you have at last a responsible balanced sensible approach to a public resource. I'm sure you'll agree it's time we were rational about these matters and stopped rabbiting on about emotional things like ecology, national heritage __even__ beauty! 
-SOCIAL NOTES FOR DECEMBER by Peter Miller. + 
-Wednesda, December 16: Christmas Party.+So let's get on with the logging and hope that little SPROUTS will flourish and grow in every town in Australia!" 
 + 
 +=====Social Notes Fore December.===== 
 + 
 +by Peter Miller. 
 + 
 +====Wednesday, December 16: Christmas Party.==== 
 The Club will be open from 7.30 pm for this year's party. Please bring food suitably decorated for Christmas. It is advisable to bring a glass as the plastic ones provided never quite last out the evening. The Club will provide soft drink, beer and wine so anyone who would like to drink something stronger will have to bring it with them. The Club will be open from 7.30 pm for this year's party. Please bring food suitably decorated for Christmas. It is advisable to bring a glass as the plastic ones provided never quite last out the evening. The Club will provide soft drink, beer and wine so anyone who would like to drink something stronger will have to bring it with them.
 +
 Bring your children to the party. Bring your children to the party.
 +
 Can I have some volunteers to help carry drinks, set up the tables and clean up? Please phone me on 95,2689. Can I have some volunteers to help carry drinks, set up the tables and clean up? Please phone me on 95,2689.
-Wednesday December 2: Free Night. + 
-As it'ia close to Christmas this evening has been left for Club +====Wednesday December 2: Free Night.==== 
-members to make last minute arrangements for bushwalks over the holiday period. + 
-Wednesday December 30: Clubroom closed.+As it is close to Christmas this evening has been left for Club members to make last minute arrangements for bushwalks over the holiday period. 
 + 
 +====Wednesday December 30: Clubroom closed.==== 
 Will the Club member who suggested showing a film an Cross-country Ski-ing please contact the Social Secretary - 95,2689. Will the Club member who suggested showing a film an Cross-country Ski-ing please contact the Social Secretary - 95,2689.
-.page 6 LEE SYDNEY BUSHWALKER November, 1981;+ 
 + 
 THE SKINK THAT CAME TO DINNER.  THE SKINK THAT CAME TO DINNER. 
 by Jim Brown. by Jim Brown.
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